1997 1500 locked in 4 wheel

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Hello,

I'm new to the world for pick-up trucks and 4x4's and I just bought a 1997 Sierra 1500 which is currently locked in 4x4 at all times. It is an automatic and I was wondering what the problem most likely is, how can I more precisely diagnose it and how do I fix it ?

Thanks,
Greg McCool
 
Hello,

I'm new to the world for pick-up trucks and 4x4's and I just bought a 1997 Sierra 1500 which is currently locked in 4x4 at all times. It is an automatic and I was wondering what the problem most likely is, how can I more precisely diagnose it and how do I fix it ?

Thanks,
Greg McCool

On the full size, the front actuator is electric, not vacuum.

When in 4wd mode, a switch on top of the transfer case conducts 12 volts out to the actuator. Wire #50 (brown) is the 12v feed, and it conducts to the light blue wire (#900) to the actuator.
When shifted out of 4wd, the switch opens up and no voltage goes to the actuator.

I'll assume it is the actuator, if the plug to the actuator is getting 12 volts when in 4wd. The way this actuator works, is it is a sealed chamber that gets heated by voltage. When it heats, the pin in the end swells and pushes a shift fork in the front differential. The shift fork engages a spline on the passenger side of the differential, and boom! you have 4WD.

GM offered an upgrade to this actuator that is a motor instead of a heated device. However, it requires a small harness addition, a spacer, and a new actuator. It is about a $150 to $200 option.

Good luck. The actuator is usually the problem 90% of time but recheck all of the wire harness just to maker sure there is no short before replacing any parts. The actuator may not be fully engaged or disengaged and the fork to the spline may be what is causing the whining or grinding noise you hear.

88-UP C/K ACTUATOR UPGRADE
VEHICLE SERVICED: GM/CHEVROLET FULL SIZE
PURPOSE: IMPROVE AXLE CONNECT ENGAGEMENT TIME AND
COMPONENT RELIABILITY.

SYMPTOMS: NO FRONT DRIVE AXLE ENGAGEMENT WHEN SHIFTED INTO 4X4.

Obtain the following GM part numbers:
(1) 26060073 Actuator
(1) 88959465 Harness/Spacer Kit

On the passenger side of the front axle the actuator is screwed in, if it's still the old thermal actuator it is metal with a 2 wire plug, the newer ones are plastic and have three wires(production started in 98) and the axle engages immediately.

First look at the passenger side of the front axle about even with the extension(part the CV axle bolts to on pass. side), if its metal with a 2 wire plug its part number 26013495(thermal actuator). If its a plastic unit extending 5 inches or so out of the axle with 3 wires, you have the newer style actuator- stays locked in with key off, don't have to wait more than 2 seconds for axle to lock in- part number 26060073. If you want to upgrade to the new style and your vehicle GVW is not over 8500 lbs you will need part number 26060073 and a adapter wiring harness # 88959465 Harness/Spacer Kit.

Good luck and keep us posted. :D

For OBD-II vehicles with push button between the instrument panel and the radio/HVAC control stack:


The diagnostic trouble codes are displayed on the three transfer case shift select buttons located on the instrument panel. When the connector pin 13 on the data link cable is grounded, and the ignition switch has been OFF for at least five seconds prior to positioning the ignition switch to run the shift select buttons will blink various times together in order to indicate a diagnostic trouble code from 1 to 4.


Position the ignition switch to OFF. Ensure the ignition switch is positioned to OFF for at least 6 seconds. Connect pin 13 on the data link cable to a vehicle ground source. The data link connector is located in the cab under the instrument panel on the drivers side. Position the ignition switch to RUN. Note the shift select buttons for blinking codes.
If the shift select buttons all blink one time and stop, and do not continue to blink, no fault codes are stored in the TCCM. The transfer case shift select buttons will blink in order to identify any stored trouble code. If only one code is stored in the TCCM memory, that code will blink repeatedly with a three second delay between blinking sequences. If more than one code is stored, the first code will blink once, then after a three seconds delay, the next code will blink. This sequence will continue until pin 13 is no longer grounded.

When reading the diagnostic trouble codes, the number of shift select buttons blinks will indicate the code number.


The error codes are:
1 - When the ignition switch is positioned to RUN the TCCM test to determine if RAM standby Power (maintained battery power) to the TCCM was lost since the ignition was last turned OFF. When power is interrupted on pin C6 of the TCCM, the TCCM stores a loss of RAM standby power.
2 - During electronic shifting, the TCCM check the motor/encoder for normal operation. If the motor/encoder does not function correctly enough times, the TCCM stores a motor/encoder failure DTC 2.
3 - The TCCM performs a test each time the electronic-shift motor is turned ON or OFF. If the motor does not function properly the TCCM stores a motor circuit failure DTC 3, and the shift select buttons blink in order to inform the driver of a problem.
4 - Each time the ignition is turned ON, the TCCM tests the memory, the program, and the internal system in order to ensure that the TCCM is operating properly. If the TCCM detects a fault within the TCCM, the TCCM stores a RAM/ROM memory failure (DTC) 4.


How to fix common push button 4wd problems:

If you have codes 2 or 3 check all the encoder motor connections at the transfer case, if those check out OK, you will probably need a new encoder motor.
If you have code 4, replace the TCCM.

Make sure all connections are good and no corrosion, and then it's either an encoder or TCCM.

How to replace the TCCM

The TCCM is located behind the glove box, and is accessed from underneath the dash. In order to get to it, the kick panel and black cover need to be removed. Then a 1/4" screw holds the TCCM and ECM in the dash. The middle computer is the ECM, the one on the backside is the TCCM, and on the front is the small ABS computer. Simply loosen the two 10mm nuts on each side, and they will separate.

How to fix the encoder motor

Cheap way - To clear the codes and reset the computer, pull the 5 amp TCCM fuse, located at the bottom of the fuse box. Wait at least a half hour, and then replace the fuse. Turn the ignition key to run, wait for the 4x4 lights to blink, and then turn off. Repeat 5 times, and then start the truck.

Reasonably priced way - http://www.northernautoparts.com. The part costs around $140 with a 1 year warranty and $38 core refund when you send the old one back.

Expensive way - buy a brand new one from GM for over $300.

How to install the encoder motor

Lucky way - The only thing that needs to be removed is the encoder motor itself. Tools needed are a 10mm hand wrench and an 8mm and 10mm socket wrench. The 10mm socket will work on the upper and lower bolts, while the regular wrench is needed for the middle bolt. (Tight squeeze!). The 8mm socket is for the electric plug. Remove the bolts and connector, then, just pull and wiggle it out of the truck. Install in reverse order.

Unlucky way - This means the encoder motor did not just wiggle out. Now the front drive shaft will have to be removed at the transfer case. Then, a yolk puller is needed in order to remove the yolk from the transfer case. Once this is done, go back to the directions in lucky way. :eek:
 
Another question, I'm looking to pick up the Haynes manual for my 1997 Sierra 1500 but even the Haynes website doesn't show one for my exact model but it does come up with this one:

http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/246

Is this one good for me? or is there a better alternative?

Thanks.
 
Another question, I'm looking for the Haynes manual for the 1997 gmc Sierra 1500 but when I go the the Haynes website they don't have one for my exact make and model but it comes up with this one:

http://www.haynes.com/products/productID/246

Is this what I am looking for or is there a better alternative?

Thanks
 
I finally got around to taking a peek under the truck and I can't find the brown and light blue wires. I saw three places where something plugs into the Transfer Case;

1) purple/white and green/white wires connecting to something on the back of the T-case near the driveshaft going to the rear tires

2) a connector on the top of the T-case with 4 wires coming out of it

3) red and black wires leading to what looked like a small electric motor on the driver-side part of the T-case

Where on the T-case is the actuator?

Also I tried to read the codes off of the dash switches but when I grounded pin 13 nothing happened. The dash switches also do not light up at all, ever, not while trying to read the codes, not while driving, not even when you push Them. So could that module be my problem?

Thanks,
 
I finally got around to taking a peek under the truck and I can't find the brown and light blue wires. I saw three places where something plugs into the Transfer Case;

1) purple/white and green/white wires connecting to something on the back of the T-case near the driveshaft going to the rear tires

2) a connector on the top of the T-case with 4 wires coming out of it

3) red and black wires leading to what looked like a small electric motor on the driver-side part of the T-case

Where on the T-case is the actuator?

Also I tried to read the codes off of the dash switches but when I grounded pin 13 nothing happened. The dash switches also do not light up at all, ever, not while trying to read the codes, not while driving, not even when you push Them. So could that module be my problem?

Good luck and keep us posted, :cool:

http://www.compnine.com/index.php?u...delid=6897&capuid=1&majorgroup=06&grouptype=B
http://www.compnine.com/index.php?u...delid=6897&capuid=1&majorgroup=04&grouptype=B
Here on this link, it's number 2 is the one your want to trace.http://www.compnine.com/index.php?u...delid=6897&capuid=1&majorgroup=02&grouptype=B

Unplug the connector at the front differential to make sure you have no 12 Volts going to the actuator. If there is no voltage at the connector, your actuator has gone bad or the fork in your front differential is stuck and will need attention. Keep me posted, be glad to help you get your Sierra running 100% again soon.;)
 
So it doesn't matter that the switches on the dashboard don't light up?
 
So it doesn't matter that the switches on the dashboard don't light up?

Just got to start wit the simple first and that's the front actuator and after that we can move on to the rest. The "Transfer Case Switch" has a Brown and Light Blue wire. The brown should be 12 volts. The drawings show this switch as being on the top of the transfer case, as posted earlier.

This brown wire is the main power coming in from the 4WD fuse, and it goes through this switch first before going on to the front axle actuator.Those dash switches are prone to failure and could just be the swtch. Unless you push the 2wd button, and the light indicates it is 2wd yet the front wheels are still engaged. Then you could consider the actuator. But I think you should look at the actual switch also after you check for power to the front actuator.

Once the 4wd controller is out of the dash, pop it open. Inspect it closely for all of the solders to the pins where the wire harness plug onto and see if there broken. Simply repaired the solders and if that's the issue, you may be on your way with a working four wheel drive system again. 30 minutes and no money spent. Good luck.:D

There should be a sensor on top of the trasfer case that will send signal to acuator when put in 4 wheel drive inside. The sensor above the acuator just sends a signal to the light on the switch. If you have the old thermal acuator and have to replace it you will want to upgrade to the later style servo motor style after you have checked everything mentioned above. Also i am sure you muse of checked the fuses in the interior fuse panel. Check the 4WD and Transfer case fuses if that was over looked. ;)

Keep me posted friend:D
 
I checked the fuses located in the engine bay. I took a quick look inside the car for a fuse panel but I didn't see any, where is it located?
 
I checked the fuses located in the engine bay. I took a quick look inside the car for a fuse panel but I didn't see any, where is it located?

Fuse panel is located at the end of the drivers side dash, you need the drivers door open to access the fuse panel. Let me know if you need a printable manual and i can send you a link for a free manual down load for your Sierra. ;)
 
Alright I think I have the upgraded version. On the passenger side of the front differential, above the axle, there is a cylinder shaped module (about 5 inches in length) with a wire harness connecting to it. The harness has four wires in it. One wire, when connected to any other wire on that harness, reads 12v. Any combination of the other wires yields no voltage.

I looked around the diff. and saw no other connectors. I am assuming that this is my actuator despite it having 4 wires instead of three. Am I wrong?

Thanks

Edit: Oh and I checked the interior fuse panel, there was one fuse burnt out but it was the one for my climate control. At least that's one problem down :)
 
Alright I think I have the upgraded version. On the passenger side of the front differential, above the axle, there is a cylinder shaped module (about 5 inches in length) with a wire harness connecting to it. The harness has four wires in it. One wire, when connected to any other wire on that harness, reads 12v. Any combination of the other wires yields no voltage.

I looked around the diff. and saw no other connectors. I am assuming that this is my actuator despite it having 4 wires instead of three. Am I wrong?

Thanks

Edit: Oh and I checked the interior fuse panel, there was one fuse burnt out but it was the one for my climate control. At least that's one problem down :)

If you are getting 12 Volts to the actuator, then your front axle is active. disconnect the wire and see if the front actuator will disengage the frond axle. Most likely it should, if that's the case, then there is a good chance that's it's the switch it self on the dash.

The switch on the dash is know to fail by the circuit board will crack and shorting will occur. Inspect the switch and you may get luck like most and just need to re-solder the board unless it's to far damaged.

Keep me posted. ;)
 
GREAT NEWS!!!!!

...The truck won't start.

I am not getting any fuel pressure at the schrader valve... I don't even hear the pump attempting to build pressure. I know old GM's used to have a problem with the gas gauge registering a quarter tank (like it is now) but the tank was actually empty. Is this a problem with the Sierra?

I am going to get a jerry of gas, test the relay, and hope to god it is something simple because if the pump is dead I am going to cry...

any suggestions?
 
Car won't start.

It turns over, but there is no fuel pressure at the schrader. I don't hear the pump trying to build pressure when the ignition is 'on'. I am going to test the relay and hope the fuel pump is fine.
 
Car won't start.

It turns over, but there is no fuel pressure at the schrader. I don't hear the pump trying to build pressure when the ignition is 'on'. I am going to test the relay and hope the fuel pump is fine.

Check your ECM fuse, the fuel pump get's it's 12 volt from the ECM. Aways start with the simple before you tear in to the hard things LOL.

Keep me posted friend. ;)
 
Fuses are good.

Tank has gas in her

No pressure still.
 
sounds like a fuel pump to me, anyone else have any ideas?
 
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