2012 5.3 AFM (LC9) using oil

GMC2012Sierra5.3LC9

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I have done quite a bit of research on the 5.3 AFM engine using oil but have not seen any as recent as mine. Since purchased the 2012 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD SLE with the 5.3L V8 Aluminum Block with AFM (RPO LC9) has eaten oil. It had 368 miles on it at purchase. At 2158 miles I swapped to Mobil 1 Synthetic 5W30. I am still having the issue. I would be interested in everyone with this engine with or without the same problem. Oil consumption from test runs around 1qt in ~2200 miles. I have seen the GM bulletin that states 'normal' oil consumption is a quart every 2000 miles, which I believe is not at all normal or should not be. My last truck, a 2002 GMC 1500 HD 6.0 Crew Cab, did not start using a quart until it reached 245,000 miles. The oil is not being burnt and not leaking. I believe the oil to be collecting on the piston rings of the deactivated cylinders and at some point the oil consumption is going to worsen and cause other issues. Has anyone experienced this problem? I have considered the AFM deactivation module that plugs into the obd port. My wife is not for us having to pay to fix a manufacturing or design flaw and is ready to take GM and the dealer to task on this issue.
 
2012 and later AFM engine oil consumption issue?

Has anyone with a 2012 AFM engine (RPOs L20, L76, LC9, LH6, LS4, ...) or later of any size having or had the oil consumption problem (a quart or more between oil changes)? If so what was done to fix it? Did you fix it yourself by disabling AFM or did the dealer fix it? How many miles on your truck did you have when the problem showed up? The above RPOs are aluminum block V8 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0. There may be others. The RPO list I am using is from November 2002.
 
I had the problem on my 2008 Sierra. Take it to the dealer and let them know what is going on. They first put the deflector shields in the oil pan and when that didn't work they had replaced all the pistons, rings and the lifters. I now can go 10 000km and I do not lose an ounce of oil. Good luck.
 
My 2012 C/C 4x4 Z71 5.3 SLE is burning about a quart every 4000 miles. I currently have around 17,000 miles total on the truck. I still think burning any amount of oil is total crap, and the reason I'll never buy GM ever again. I didn't drive GM for about 30 years because of some major issues I had with a Cavalier and a GM dealer in the early 80's and thought I'd give them a chance.

Back to Toyota I go. Should have never left.
 
My 2010 has used oil since day 1.... VERY disappointed in this engine. Worse yet, taken it to local dealership and they not only indicated nothing was wrong, and there were no issues with these engines (which I know they are aware as I personally know a gmc trainer that indicated that dealers do know). I use a qt every 1.5k miles (synthetic blends) but I realized my dealership put conventional oil which burned all 6 Qts in about 3k miles. I have had issues ever since. I'm trying to save up to get my latest low oil pressure situation fixed so I can trade this POS in. I don't wanna go to Toyota. But everyone i know has not had issues with their truck...
 
My 2010 has used oil since day 1.... VERY disappointed in this engine. Worse yet, taken it to local dealership and they not only indicated nothing was wrong, and there were no issues with these engines (which I know they are aware as I personally know a gmc trainer that indicated that dealers do know). I use a qt every 1.5k miles (synthetic blends) but I realized my dealership put conventional oil which burned all 6 Qts in about 3k miles. I have had issues ever since. I'm trying to save up to get my latest low oil pressure situation fixed so I can trade this POS in. I don't wanna go to Toyota. But everyone i know has not had issues with their truck...

Hello str8flushpkr,

I am sorry that you disagree with what the dealership told you in regard to the oil usage in your vehicle. Have you thought about getting a second opinion at another dealership? I would be more than happy to assist you in setting up an appointment if you would like. Please feel free to private message me if you would like my assistance.

Gregory W.
Cadillac Customer Care
 
Following my last oil change, the next 1000 mile oil consumption was stated at 1/2 Pint. I believe this was a misunderstanding between the mechanic and the service rep. I had it checked again right before Christmas and it was back to 1/2 quart. I am playing the wait game. I know at some point it is going to break the quart in 2000 'normal' consumption GMC standard. Vehicle now has 30,000 miles on it, is starting to run poorly, it is just a matter of time. I am sure that it is going to go over normal before it is out of warranty. Probably in the next 1000 miles.
 
Following my last oil change, the next 1000 mile oil consumption was stated at 1/2 Pint. I believe this was a misunderstanding between the mechanic and the service rep. I had it checked again right before Christmas and it was back to 1/2 quart. I am playing the wait game. I know at some point it is going to break the quart in 2000 'normal' consumption GMC standard. Vehicle now has 30,000 miles on it, is starting to run poorly, it is just a matter of time. I am sure that it is going to go over normal before it is out of warranty. Probably in the next 1000 miles.

Hello GMC2012Sierra5.3LC9,

Thank you very much for taking the time to update the thread. Please keep us updated as to your next oil change. Have you started an oil consumption test with your dealership, or are you just keeping track yourself?

Gregory W.
GMC Customer Care
 
I purchased my 08 Sierra brand new. I have had the same "low oil pressure" issue. The first time it happened had just broke 80,000 miles. Added a quart of oil and went on my way. At 90,000 mile it happened twice in one day. 23% oil life left and it was a quart and a half low. Truck runs fine as long as your driving, but as soon as I stop the motor feels like it's about to fall out the bottom. I brought to dealership ( I forgot about 5 year limit on 100,000 mile warranty ). Their diagnostic was seized lifters and for $4,056.00 they would replace lifters and cam shaft.

Asked dealership for price on new motor and it was $5,800.00 plus tax. I order a new motor from GM for $3,790.00 and install it myself. I can't believe that GM would not fix this problem. I called a local mechanic shop just to ask about dealerships diagnostic and they said sound right they have had five in one month.
 
Hello GMC2012Sierra5.3LC9,

Thank you very much for taking the time to update the thread. Please keep us updated as to your next oil change. Have you started an oil consumption test with your dealership, or are you just keeping track yourself?

Gregory W.
GMC Customer Care

I have been doing the dealer oil consumption test since about my 2nd PCP oil change. I have been using Mobil 1 Synthetic and paying the difference between what the PCP pays for and the cost of the synthetic. I paid for the PCP in the purchase of the truck on the dealers recommendation.
 
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Prior to 36000 miles I went in for an oil consumption test and the GMC service rep said that it was not missing any oil. It was cold so I did not check it myself until a few hundred miles later. When I checked it the oil was over a half quart low. Also the dealer stated that they were no longer going to be a GMC dealer after the end of the month. Anyway I did not have the time or a chance to start up with another dealer.

To add to this saga about a couple of weeks ago, after leaving the truck sitting in the sun after the drive to work, upon starting the truck the traction control and Stabilitrack started disabling and the service messages for them started showing up. Following the drive home and leaving the truck overnight to cool off the traction control and stabilitrack would reengage. After a week of this I noticed the truck started idling rough. Yesterday the service engine light came on and I took it to another dealer. They replaced a broken cam cover and cleaned or replaced cylinder 7 plug which was fouled. AFM, oil consumption and cylinder 7....sound familiar? Anyway they are changing the oil and I am restarting the oil consumption test with this dealer. We will see how it goes.
 
Hello GMC2012Sierra5.3LC9,

I apologize for any unsatisfactory experience you've encountered regarding your vehicle's oil consumption. I see you recently started an oil consumption test with a new dealership. If you would like to further discuss your situation or keep me updated throughout this process, please feel free to send me a private message that includes your full contact information, VIN, current mileage and dealership name and location.

Sincerely,

Laura M.
GMC Customer Care
 
Update

Prior to 36000 miles I went in for an oil consumption test and the GMC service rep said that it was not missing any oil. It was cold so I did not check it myself until a few hundred miles later. When I checked it the oil was over a half quart low. Also the dealer stated that they were no longer going to be a GMC dealer after the end of the month. Anyway I did not have the time or a chance to start up with another dealer.

To add to this saga about a couple of weeks ago, after leaving the truck sitting in the sun after the drive to work, upon starting the truck the traction control and Stabilitrack started disabling and the service messages for them started showing up. Following the drive home and leaving the truck overnight to cool off the traction control and stabilitrack would reengage. After a week of this I noticed the truck started idling rough. Yesterday the service engine light came on and I took it to another dealer. They replaced a broken cam cover and cleaned or replaced cylinder 7 plug which was fouled. AFM, oil consumption and cylinder 7....sound familiar? Anyway they are changing the oil and I am restarting the oil consumption test with this dealer. We will see how it goes.

I would love to know how this turned out. I have a 2012 Silverado with 5.3L and 4 months ago paid $4,000 for the cam/lifter job that I found to be common at relatively low mileage on these engines. I read your post. I am in exactly the same situation today. I ma having the truck towed to the dealer tomorrow for diagnosis.

Was driving with no issues today. Idling in a parking lot, the check engine light came on, traction and stabiltrak disabled. Immediately the engine started idling rough. Checked the oil and it was 2 quarts low. Use only Mobile 1 synthetic and had it changed less than 2,000 miles ago.
 
Engine - Engine Oil Consumption











# 01-06-01-011I: Information on Engine Oil Consumption Guidelines - (Oct 27, 2015)
Subject: Information on Engine Oil Consumption Guidelines

Models: 2016 and Prior GM Passenger Cars and Gasoline-Powered Light
Duty Trucks Under 8500 LB GVW

Attention: This Bulletin also applies to any of the above models that may be
Export vehicles.

This Bulletin has been revised to add the 2015-2016 Model Years. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 01-06-01-011H.

All engines require oil to lubricate and protect the load bearing and internal moving parts from wear including cylinder walls, pistons and piston rings. When a piston moves down its cylinder, a thin film of oil is left on the cylinder wall. During the power stroke, part of this oil layer is consumed in the combustion process. As a result, varying rates of oil consumption are accepted as normal in all engines.

Oil Consumption

The accepted rate of oil consumption for engines used in the vehicles referenced is 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000mi).



Important :

This rate only applies to personal use vehicles, under warranty, that are driven in a non-aggressive manner and maintained in accordance with the appropriate maintenance schedule, with less than 58,000 km (36,000mi), or driven at legal speeds in an unloaded (for trucks) condition.



Important :

This rate does not apply to vehicles that are driven in an aggressive manner, at high RPM, high speeds, or in a loaded condition (for trucks). Oil consumption for vehicles driven under these conditions will be more.


Many factors can affect a customer's concern with oil consumption. Driving habits and vehicle maintenance vary from owner to owner. Thoroughly evaluate each case before deciding whether the vehicle in question has abnormal engine oil consumption.

Gasket and External Leaks

Inspect the oil pan and engine covers for leakage due to over-tightened, damaged, or out of place gaskets. Inspect oil lines and fittings for signs of leakage.

Improper Reading of the Oil Level Indicator (Dipstick)

Verify that the dipstick tube is fully seated in the block. When checking the oil level, make sure the dipstick is wiped clean before taking an oil level reading and fully depress the dipstick until the shoulder bottoms out on the dipstick tube. The dipstick should be the proper part number for the engine/vehicle that is being checked.



Notice :

Operating your vehicle with an oil level that is below the minimum level indicated on the engine oil dipstick can result in severe engine damage. Repairs resulting from operating an engine with insufficient oil are not covered under the terms of the New Vehicle Warranty.



Important :

Refer to Owner Manual in SI for checking and adding engine oil.


Not Waiting Long Enough After Running Engine to Check Oil Level

Some engines require more time than others for the oil to drain back into the crankcase. To assure a sufficient amount of oil has drained back to the crankcase, and an accurate reading can be obtained, the vehicle should be allowed to sit for at least 15 minutes, after the engine has been shut off, before taking an oil level reading. In order to ensure accurate results, the temperature of the oil should be close to the same temperature as the last time the oil level was checked.



Important :

This does not apply to 2006-2009 Corvette Z06 equipped with the 7.0L LS7 and the 2009 Corvette ZR-1 with the 6.2L LS9 engines (dry sump). Follow the instructions in the Owner Manual for checking the oil in this application.


Improper Oil Fill After an Oil Change

Following an oil change, verify that the proper amount and type of oil was put in the engine and that the oil level on the dipstick is not above the full mark or below the add marks. Refer to the Owner Manual or Service Manual for information on recommended oil quantity, viscosity, and quality.

Aggressive Driving, High Speed or High RPM Driving

Aggressive driving and/or continuous driving at high speeds/high RPMs will increase oil consumption. Because this may not always be an everyday occurrence, it is hard to determine exactly how much the oil economy will be affected.

A higher rate of oil consumption is normal for vehicles equipped with manual transmissions that are driven aggressively. By "aggressive," we mean operation at high RPM (3,000 RPM to redline), with frequent use of engine braking (using the engine to slow the vehicle). Vehicles that are driven aggressively may consume engine oil at a rate of up to 0.946 L (1 quart) every 805 km (500mi). This is normal for a vehicle that is driven aggressively. No repair is necessary. This characteristic does, however, require the owner to check the engine oil level at sufficiently frequent intervals, especially when driving aggressively, to assure the oil level remains within the recommended operating range. As the Owner's Manual recommends, you should check the oil level every time you get fuel.

Towing or Heavy Usage

Towing a trailer will increase oil consumption and may cause oil consumption to fall below the normal accepted rate referenced in this bulletin for an unloaded vehicle in a personal use application. Large frontal area trailers will further increase the work required from the engine, especially at highway speeds, and thus increases the rate of oil consumption.

Crankcase Ventilation System

Verify that the positive crankcase ventilation (PCV) system is operating properly. Blockages, restrictions, or damage to the PCV system can result in increased oil use.

Oil Dilution (Fuel and Water)

On vehicles that are usually driven short distances, less than 8 km (5mi), especially in colder weather, unburned fuel and condensation generated from cold engine operation may not get hot enough to evaporate out of the oil. When this occurs, the dipstick may indicate that the oil level is over-full. Subsequent driving on a trip of sufficient length to enable normal engine operating temperature for 30minutes or more, in order to vaporize excess moisture and fuel, may give the customer the impression of excessive oil consumption.

Engine Temperature

If an engine is run at overheated temperatures (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual) for more than brief periods, oil will oxidize at a faster than normal rate. In addition, gaskets may distort, piston rings may stick, and excessive wear may result. Verify that all cooling system components are in proper working order.

Engine Wear

Piston scuffing, excessive piston-to-wall clearance, tapered or out of round cylinders, worn, damaged or improperly installed valve guides, seals and piston rings will all cause an increase in oil consumption.

Measurement of Oil Consumption

Engines require a period of time to BREAK IN so that moving parts are properly seated. Therefore, oil economy should not be tested until the vehicle has accumulated at least 6400 km (4000mi). An exception would be allowed only if an engine is reported to be using more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 1600 km (1000mi).



1.

Verify that the engine has no external leaks. Repair as necessary.



2.

Verify that the engine is at normal operating temperature (see Owner's Manual or Service Manual).



3.

Park the vehicle on a level surface.



4.

Wait at least 15minutes, after the engine is shut off, before checking the oil level to make sure that the oil has had time to drain back into the crankcase.



5.

Verify that the oil level is at, but not above, the full mark on the dipstick, and that the proper viscosity and quality oil are being used as recommended in the Owner's Manual.



6.

Record the vehicle mileage, date, and exact oil level on the form included in this bulletin.



7.

Ask the customer to verify the oil level, each time the vehicle is fueled, following steps 1-6 and return the vehicle to the dealership if the oil level is found at or below the add mark, 0.946 liter (1 qt) low. If the oil level remains above the add mark, the customer should continue to operate the vehicle and verify the engine oil level until 3200 km (2000mi) has accumulated before returning to the dealership for a final evaluation.



8.

If the final evaluation shows that the engine uses more than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000mi), follow the published symptom diagnostics as described in the appropriate Service Manual. If the oil consumption test shows that the engine uses less than 0.946 liter (1 qt) in 3200 km (2000mi), explain to the customer that their engine meets the guidelines for oil consumption.
 


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